I've noticed that some people complain about wps that are bright, and only dark wallpapers get high ratings. Could this be an cultural thing? Scandinavian furniture design, for example, is known for it's clean lines, organic feel and most often bright colors.
It's the same with websites, If you compare American websites with scandinavian ones you'll see that Scandinavian websites uses bright background colors a lot more than American.
Don't know where I'm going with this post.. but I think I've mutilated the english language enough
i usually enjoy both, but it really depends on the rest of the art. And as for furniture, i kinda doubt it. There is a lot of eggwhite and the like that is extremely popular over here (in scandinavia) nowadays .
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some people don't like wps that are too bright cuz we stare at the monitor all day and can't stand the glare. :) though i think you do have a point with the culture thing.
I work in a completely dark environment as often as possible. Like ether said,when you're working on something for eight hours straight, bright can be hard on your eyes. Something dark and soft is much easier on 'em.
On a side note, ever notice how people who apologize for their poor English are usually better than your average 133t native speaker?
black sheets, black pillow i'm sitting on, black table, black gas mask on wall, one black light, black pillows for other people, black bed, and you can probably guess what color clothes i'm wearing
That's because Scandinavians have style and taste, and Americans (mostly) are a tacky lot. I'd like to be able to light a wpaper like a Kubrick scene, but I'm not there (yet) Very bright, but the colors comn on dark, vibrant and little fuzzed.........
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i just love stereotypes like that. there are 250,000,000 americans. i doubt that all, or even most are a tacky lot. maybe the ones you see on television, but thats not a good representation of reality.
i agree that brightness is just too hard on the eyes after a long time. my computer room has overhead flourescent lighting, and it gets very tiring after awhile. i actually ended up taking down the ceiling panels so i could get at the light fixture and take some of the flourescent tubes out. now i've got two lit instead of 4.
but i'd still rather have normal incandescent bulbs. or mix of normal and colored.
Americans that are into the art scene are more likely into the goth scene also. If you enjoy art in any shape or form and are a male, then you are an outcast. Trust me i know
goth -> that term gets tossed about a lot. i really dont like using it because most connotations of it are either fat wicca girl or some hot topic doom cookie. i think it relates to more of the fact that the current counter culture thing, the whole tribal, body mod, etc etc thing overlaps really strongly with the industrial goth scenes
dunno. i get (really) annoyed if people call me goth.
I didn't say all 250,000,000 Americans are tacky. Just most of them. Ever driven through Arkansas? Been to Branson, MO? Seen a football stadium full of people wearing foam cheese wedges on their heads? Been to a Wal-Mart lately? Seen any teal Geo Trackers in your 'hood? Watch any wrestling? Joe America doesn't think about design when he buys a chair, he just hopes it has drink holders and reclines. I would say a good 8/10 of Americans are pretty tacky. The upside is many of them know this and like it. Most untacky people live on the coasts, which is why miriku is oblivious to the tacky America. Dolloars to doughnuts, Americans are tackier than their European counterparts.
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that crack about the coasts, that was s'posed to be funny. I live in Chicago. I don't want to piss any of you Jersey guys off. ; )
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and as a certified yurpeen i can tell you, yes yurp is pretty godammn tacky too, but just not in the same dimension. why?
1. Different kind of tackiness. While the american take the "im stupid and go completely hands down for all cynical american products like beef spray" the yurpeens are pretty different, at least most of em (there arent THAT many brits with arsenal tattoed on their foreheads) Anyways, yurpeens are more tacky on their own pride and style. eg, they can walk around looking incredibly stupid and corny without getting any feedback on it or anything. uh. That didnt come out right. Anywho, you get the difference if you ever go to yurp and then america.
2. There arent quarter as many tacky yurpeens as americans. Now lets take a look at asia. like....japan. now thats tackyness of extreme proportions
scottish power pop guitar bands rule. and super furry animals are king. (welsh) there's no band in America that can touch them.
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I must add that there is a differens in a bright wallpaper and a wallpaper that uses light colours. There is wallappers out there that are light and uses a lot of white, light green, pale blue, and pink that are quite easy on the eyes. What i mean is, you donīt need to use a dark wallpaper to save you eyes, but you should not use a bright one... eehhh did anyone get me.
downtempo. something americans could never do well.
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yeah okay. trip hop? nope downtempo. closed minded? gimme some good american DOWNTEMPO because we all know the portish head is the shit. theyre american yes?.
well, frankly, i dont owe you anything nor will i give it to you.
second, i have no idea where portishead is from. they're musicians and create sound. thats what matters to me and i never bothered to see what race, color, creed, gender, sexual preference or nationality they are.
it doesnt matter to me. why does it matter to you?
Because the brits have yellow teeth? doesnt really matter. didnt think it would be that big of a deal. but you called me closed minded so maybe you do owe it to me. =)
I love you miriku. I voted for you as my favorite admin.
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First of all, I like "pop" music. Not what passes for pop these days, but pop as in John, Paul, George and Ringo were once "pop". There may be great metal or rap or whatever scenes in the states, and that's great, but it's not what I like. My tastes are varied, sometimes I'll go into a metal, jazz, or electronic period, all of which have pretty healthy scenes here and europe, but I always come back to nice melodies and harmonies. And then I start to hate America.
I think in terms of popular music, America died sometime in the mid sixties, killed by the Brits, and all it can really produce now is vapid rap cock rock or shallow girls wearing half a shirt. There's a lot of great bands in America, but it's work trying to hear them, because the average american doesn't support'em. You have to make it a lifestyle to hear good music in America it seems. I'm a working man, and I can't go on these grand spelunking expeditions to find a good band like I used to. In Europe though, it seems like the kind of music I like is more popular and artists are funded well and can make great, expansive records.(i.e. Rings Around the World, by Super Furry Animals, released on DVD in dolby 5.1 and a masterpeice in every way, a total experience) Every once in a while I find an America band I like, but I've given up combing through America's self obsessed indie scene for the occasional gem, most of it is shit. Self important dinks with cool hair and a "boss" guitar and bad, bad songs. It's easy to find a good Brit band, cause the Brits have taste and keep real musicians working, rather than giving $ to bleach blonde 16 year olds. I'm not a huge fan of Radiohead, but they are a great example of easily obtainable european "pop", while in America it's some horseshit like Linkin Park or this Puddle of Mudd or N'Sync. This is happening cause kids are tacky little shits raised by bigger tacky shits. From Elvis to Britney Spears in less than 50 years. Pathetic. And if you think Elvis is tacky it's just because we tacky Americans remember him as the man we destroyed, not the 21 year old who could rock a stage better than a thousand boy bands set on fire with TNT up their asses lip synching to Metallica. Do yourself a favor next time you're looking for the some tunes, walk by that new rap rock display at Best Buy, walk out the fucking door, and drive to a real record store with music in it and buy a copy of the Sun sessions by the King, and get some great music and history lesson to boot. It's perhaps America's greatest heritage and invention, rock and roll, and we've turned it into CRAP. CRAP. CRAP. I'd pay money to watch the MC5 whip Limp Biscuit to death with their own guitar cords.
saying american music is puddle of mudd is not really fair. it's like calling british music oasis and robbie williams. for every nsync there's a spice girl, y'know?
good music happens. it tends to happen in groups, spurts of people bouncing ideas off each other. cbgb's starting up talking heads, blondie and ramones. florida churning out obituary, morbid angel and deicide. oslo (i think) with mayhem, emperor and immortal. this creates that illusion, but it's only an illusion.
america is a huge fucking country. a lot of people dont realize that. it's bigger then europe combined. 99% of music in america i havent heard. frankly, when people say creativity is gone, my first impulse is to say "from what planet are you?"
grab Dillinger Escape Plan, Noisex, Blue Meth, Genocide Organ, Ulver, Kovenant, and top it off with something easier to chew on, Assemblege 23. there is change happening in music, and if you're not digging enough to see it, thats your fault not anyone elses. nowadays we live in a world where information is key and data mining is a life necessary skill. you wont be fed good music, you gotta find it. google is your friend. :)
but, hey! at least I tried to broaden my taste in music. some people don't even try and just listen to n'sync or whatever because they are just ignorant of all other good bands
I have to read the rest of this, but one thing. I don't even like dark, I like black. ^.^ Dark isn't enugh for me. Part of this is personal taste, part is my sensitivity to light. I don't rate things though.
I think it's more a result of the trendy light and blue walls that plagued us for so long. Ppl are just tired of it.
As for site, there are too many white bright sites to me. That's creative or effective design to me. It's been done left, right and sideways (and never very well). I personally think all sites should be color optional, if not skinnable, but not many sites are willing to do that yet.
time to input my opinion (meaningless or not) into this game..... My opinion is that this website and it's users are half-underground. Like Neo in the matrix, this graphic design world seems to me to be underground. Underground-ness has a natural tendency to be dark, so henceforth dark wallpapers get high ratings. I do agree with the brightness thing, though, because after staring at my computer for 8 hours straight and then trying to focus on something kind of hurts. I myself fall somewhere in between on this debate....if it's good then it's good. On a cultural note, we americans in general tend to go for a lighter side...look at television, advertising - there's a lot of white, light, and pastel colors. in advertising, that's easy on the eyes. and staring at black on white is easier than white on black. but back to my original statement, the personalities of the custo community seems to be the hacker-esque type....long lonely nights wasted away on the computer....and back to my original point.
You spoke about Linkin Park here earlier .. well, did you know that some Linkin Park guys have made some kickass pictures, drawings and paintings. They are actually really good at it !.. who would have known .. ;)
going back to one of miriku's above posts: Yes, I realize it's my own fault for not taking the time to sift thru all the music. My argument is 35 or so years ago no sifting was needed, popular music was rightfully popular. On a somewhat related note, last night I watched this documentary about a middle aged manic depressive man trying to start a progressive heavy metal band in Minnesota. He's a strange man. Very sad/funny/charming movie. It's called "Driver 23" Check it out if you see it.
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