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Why Customize.org sucks for shells
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Customize.org sucks for dealing with shell issues. Let's face it. You people absolutely would not recognize a decent shell if it sat on your faces individually, maybe even wiggled around a bit. And by you people I mean the users here.
Look at the top three LiteStep themes: Nix Blue, Nix Step, Turtle Soup II. I mean, come ON. Yes, they're pretty, they have nice graphics, but if you ask any REAL LiteStep user they'll tell you that these themes do NOT belong as the top three rated themes. They never have. They have extremely limited usability, they have limited resolution adaptability. The only thing they have going for them is graphics, and if you want that, they'd be better as a wallpaper.
Let's look at the other shell ratings. HoverDesk. VelocityArt? That theme wouldn't be a usable shell unless you ripped everything off the desktop. You have how much screen real estate left over? a _hexagon_ somewhere near the center? Come on people, what posessed you to rate that so high? Again, it looks good, but graphics are all it has going for it. YaXaY's much better, it doesn't take up nearly the same amount of screen real estate, it's a workable shell. So why didn't that get rated higher?
When you people stop rating shell themes based on what it would look like as a wallpaper, maybe then you'll start making progress. But seriously. let's get cracking, folks.
09:43 pm, Wednesday, September 25, 2002 (6 years ago)
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ok, what the hell is with all this customize.org bashing all of a sudden? Why dont you take a look at when those top 3 litestep shells were submitted, and read their reviews, and then maybe you will understand why they are top 3.
creativity is all in the mind. This explains why stupid people arent very creative.
09:53 pm (6 years ago)
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Maybe you should look at the last time someone gave those themes a "100" rating. I bellieve it was March of 2002, if not more recently.
10:01 pm (6 years ago)
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pika, go fall from roof and land rectum first on a tree branch and spin spin spin.. you retard
'In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king' [ admin ]
10:02 pm (6 years ago)
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You know, with clever rebuttals like that, i don't know how I can make any sort of a case.
10:06 pm (6 years ago)
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Like you weren't looking for an arguement! Hmm you come onto a site, slag it off and a bunch of items that are obviously favourites amongst it's users. What I'm surprised at is that you bothered to sign up to the site, why didn't you just go find another if you didn't like it? Behaving like that it's no wonder you think of a basic insult (nicely demonstrated by Max) as too clever for you.
- MooseSkin
------------------------------------------------------------ ------- Which one of us is the one that we can't trust? You say that I think it's you but I don't agree with that
10:12 pm (6 years ago)
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Ill have to agree with pika on this one. People are too busy rating the damn things on looks, and not use. Yes creativity is a nice factor in skinning/theming, but what good is something if it doesnt run right. I mean if i gave you the shell of a Dodge Viper, and only a shell, would you still think the viper would be better than a perfectly running lower class car, hell no, youd want the car that actually ran.
I am [morph].
10:13 pm (6 years ago)
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Hello pika. I think I recognize LS as the fantastic shell it is. I'm a customize.org user. Moral of the story? Don't generalize.
...gear
10:14 pm (6 years ago)
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Erm, excuse me for having an alternative point of view samurai-hamster, but since when did AGE = BEST??
Those themes were submitted back in last century, and since then many many changes have happened to Litestep in terms of features and eye candy. Now we have alpha blended modules and support for drop shadows and what not. I just fail to see how something as archaic as the Nix series scores over 100 - which by the way tends to contradict the whole "out of 100" scoring system =)
10:15 pm (6 years ago)
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The thing is...THOSE THEMES ARE OLD AS DIRT!!! Come on, we all know it. It's time that the admin's did some adjusting to this site and realize that those themes have been surpased by a great many themes in terms of useability and looks. btw, piss off Max and Mooseskin. You 2 sound like a couple of n00b's....
10:20 pm (6 years ago)
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Max: if you can't come up with something original, why didn't you pick "Sulfuric acid on the genitals"?
10:22 pm (6 years ago)
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gear, you're right, i should have said "generally" somewhere in there. but you've had the same sort of trouble with your blackbox screenshots, have you not? people who are obviously rating things on looks alone, and not bothering to look into what it is they're rating.
As for MooseSkin, I wasn't looking for a fight, I was stating an opinion that is quite widely held be alternate shell users and themers. I'm attempting to raise an awareness that the users need to comment not just on how a theme would look like if it were used as a wallpaper. (As a side note - that was sarcasm. It's kind of like being facetious. email me if you need a definition for either word)
And the themes ARE old, so why are people still, just a couple of weeks ago, rating them with a 100, without even using them? I mean, a direct quote would go like "i'm rating this theme 100 even though i've never used litestep and don't even know what a shell is". KNOWLEDGE people, if you don't know about something, don't talk about it.
10:23 pm (6 years ago)
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or that might have been ghostwheel. sorry if i mistook you for him.
10:24 pm (6 years ago)
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lol @ this rate you'll be suggesting someone implement a quiz before lettimg people rate a litestep theme ;]
10:38 pm (6 years ago)
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Yes I am new here, and to the whole skins thing, and Pika I agree with you saying about people rating things without even trying them. The reason I'm new to this is because most custom skins I'd come across looked nice but were virtually unusable. This is the first place I'd come across with lots of skins that are nice to look at and use.
My problem with your initial post isn't that you're wrong about whether or not they're useable, it's that you started it by attacking all users of this site before you even explain the problem. If you want a decent conversation about improving things don't start off by insulting people.
Oh and by the way I personally don't reveiw something unless I've used it because of the fact it wouldn't be a fair judgement.
- MooseSkin
------------------------------------------------------------ ------- Which one of us is the one that we can't trust? You say that I think it's you but I don't agree with that
10:41 pm (6 years ago)
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Psynapse, it would certainly reduce the amount of repeat questions we got on the board..
...gear
10:42 pm (6 years ago)
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this thread is useless.. pika if you have a problem with the skins make one better if not be quiet and goto bed. And that goes for anyone else who is complaining about lack of good skins make one or just shut up about it already.
'In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king' [ admin ]
10:45 pm (6 years ago)
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you suck for shells
10:47 pm (6 years ago)
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Ha! I just noticed that Shadowline's join date is 25/09/02. I thought I was a n00b!
- MooseSkin
10:47 pm (6 years ago)
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