If it's shiny new with the latest hardware, you should have no problems. Mine's not that new, but I expect to run it OK, maybe with some of the ultra high quality settings turned down a bit.
My specs:
AMD AthlonXP 2000+ 512 mb DDR Soundblaster Audigy X-gamer ATI Radeon 8500 128 mb with OmegaDrivers LG Burner LG CD-ROM Large fan/heatsink setup. Lowered temps about 20 degrees.
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AMD AthlonXP 2200+ 1GIG of DDR PC3200 RAM GeForce4 TI 4800 128mb 80GB Western Digital HD w/ 8MB buffer. (no sound card to speak off..onboard) Phillips CD writer
Pretty good for a tight budget. You're almost up there. Your processor is excellent, your RAM is good, but you'll probably want a bit more for Doom3 (if you want to play that). Your vidcard is up there too - 128 mb?? I think it has more pipelines and maybe higher AGP than mine. HD is more than enough. Soundcard is currently tops in the market, and your CD drives are sweet.
Look at it this way, as far as the pace of technology goes. My processor is a bit more than a year old (came out around March/April 2002.) Yours is ab0out 6 months old or so. My setup is getting near to being obsolete. You did quite well for a tight budget. AMD is the BEST choice. Stick with AMD once they hit 64-bit proessing. Intel's Itaniumchip will suck ass. It will hardly be backward-compatible to 32-bit, and will run 32 bit apps slowr than a dedicated 32 bit P4 processor. AMD's Opteron will run 32 bit apps easily, and faster than its 32 bit predecessor. Anyway, enjoy your system!
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Here's my setup currently. AMD 2400+ Gig-o-PC3200 RAM GeForce4 Ti 4600 128 AGP8X 80x2 gig hdd @ 7200 rpm A7N8X mb with onboard db 5.1 (Yes, it's nice!) Could give two poops about the optical drives. One's a Sony DVD burner and the other's a straight Sony DVD. Couldn't tell you the models.
Topped of with some decent altec lansing speakers and a Diamond Pro 930sb 19" monitor.
And then we have the render slave:
Dual P3 @ a gig a piece. Gig of ram geforce3 Ti 64 blah stuff blah
Sometimes I think the dual P3 gives my new box a run for it's money, which steams me because the new box cost me about ten times as much. I paid 180 bucks for the dual P3, sans vga adapter.
I've got a few more boxes laying around I should sell or give away, and a few ultra 10s & 5s I had big plans for but now sit and rot. Phooey.
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5eraph lol. LTD, yeah it's 128mb, supplied with overclocking software. Pretty nice card all my newest games great. As you say, the 2600 is around 6 months old, i knew this before buying. I was tempted by the Athlon 3000 but the budget wasn't good enough. Oh yeah it's an 8x AGP motherboard. I'll be throwing another 512 of ram in there soon. By the way, when is the release date for this game?
I still believe a 1st class top notch motherboard is the best way to go over all else...who cares about the other stuff if you're just going to sink it into an 80$ piece of shit.
That's a sweet vidcard. Mine only manages 4x AGP (I think.) RAM is a good amount, too, and it's fast, and the sweet monitor tops it all off. You should be able to run DOOM3 alright :-)
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Oh. Well, last I heard through the grapevine a few months back, AMD won't really improve on the earlier sets. Opteron research reasons . . . . but I could be wrong. Anyway, a friend of mine has an Athlon 3000, and he's loving it.
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DOOM3 had better run decent on my machine. All these new chips coming out faster than I can blink worries me. Software companies and chip manufacturers are pushing things at unprecedented rates.
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Well John Carmack said by the time Doom3 comes out, the minimum requirements will call for a GeForce 3 at least, so , anyone with a GF4/FX or Radeon 9700/9800 Pro card and a decent CPU should be more than happy (Depending on how picky you are of course :) My setup:
[B]1.4ghz Tbird 266[/B] Asus A7N8X Deluxe mobo (Nforce2) 512mb Micron PC2100 in Dual Channel [B]64 mb GeForce 2 Ti[/B] 120 gig 7200 rpm 8mb cache Maxtor HD 16x Hi-Val Burner 16x Pioneer 106-S DVD-Rom ThermalTake Volcano 7 HSF 300w Antec PSU Audigy X-Gamer onboard LAN is fine
If anyone needs to upgrade, it's me :) The parts I highlighted need to be/will soon be upgraded desperately. But I run fine, nothin out these days that i "Cant" run. Colossus I think , how do you like the A7N8X? I love it so far, the 5.1 onboard sound was pathetic in my opinion compared to the audigy, but then again, i use a home theater system, I dunno what your using, might sound better on a PC sound system (Oh, nevermind, Altec Lansing) that's prolly why mine sounds like crap.
At this point, I don't see a whole lot of difference, they are all FAST as hell. I mean, these games can only be pushed so fast before it doesn't make a lick of difference. Splitting hairs, i tell you. Unless you're a totally anal rententive geek. My method is to get a new machine once a year and set it up on step behind the bleeding edge so i don't soaked with the "early adopter tax".
Oh yeah, I havn't found a single game or program yet that lags and would require me to upgrade, so who knows? If doom3 can run in low-medium detail in this GeForce 2 Ti, I might keep this system around for a little longer:) I still like how fast this rig is, I couldnt imagine how fast an XP 3000 or XP3200 would be :-O
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Yep. Athlons have smaller FSB these days. Expect Athlon's to slide in the wake of the effort to get Opterons into desktops ASAP. No big deal, as AMD OWNED Intel for most of 2002, at least until the fall. I think they peaked in the race with their 2100 chip. I think they began to lag as soon as Intel reduced their die size ofr thereabouts. A little more FSB into the Athlons, and things would be SWEET again. Don't think it'll happen, though
Although the Opteron's are based, at least partially on an advnaced version of x86 technology, called x86-64 (one of the reasons the chips will run 32 bit apps so well), they won't put much more effort into their standard x86 chips.
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Oops, colossus posted while I was re-posting. I totally agree with you though, whilst I havnt upgraded this beast much in the last 2 or 3 years, all i've really done was another 256 megs of ram, a new case, and this Asus A7N8X board is only 2 weeks old, but it's still beautifully fast for what I do/need it for. Gaming or Applications.
I guess I am one of those retentive geeks, because i'll always be suckered into buying the NEWEST and FASTEST, and then I come home and set it up, first article on toms hardware I read on my shiney new rig is about the "x" processor or "x" mobo that came out that day. But , I've had this for 3 years and I'm happy.. ..... *looks around on pricewatch eagerly* :p
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I think your T-bird can take Doom3. The main things are the videocard and your CD drives. Don't underestimte the TBirds. You can easily overclock those, too.
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LTD, the AMD XP Processor with the 400mhz FSB will murder Intel as far as im concerned (that is, until Intel comes out with their 852309823mhz FSB :p (big number eh?) But it's all relative, XP 3200+ for Doom3, Intel 3.06 with HT for 3dmax. Depends what your doing, and how deep your pockets are.
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Hehe . . . I bet if you cooled that T-bird down to a about 5 degrees or below, you'll potentially scream through Doom3 like God's wrath. Or am I wrong?
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LTD, Hmm I suppose so . I can run the Doom3 Alpha *buggy as hell* respectively, slow, but adequate. And the burner is the only sucky part, 16x10x40, but it doesnt work half the time. The Pioneer DVD is 16DVD/48CD so that's fine for now. Yeah, the vid card HAS to go, it's been killin me for a while but I havnt found a card that impressed me yet. perhaps the FX 5900 Ultra....
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sadly, the 2200 (tbred) can't be OC'ed so easily and if you could, you can barely get it to clock at about 2gigs before it won't even get to desktop also, you'd have to spend a lot into cooling the thing, since the size of those chips are smaller,and it heats up faster and doesn't dissipate as fast as a P4
if i'm gonna spend it on the cooling (case,fans,possible liquid cooling), i'd just get a faster chip. ------ wewt.
Seraph I agree totally on your "buy a new chip instead of $500 cooling system) theory, makes perfect sense, wish more people had has many brains as you do about it, sadly they dont though.
LTD, I've had the Tbird down to 31F which is roughly 0 c, (funny story, took my roomates 10,000 BTU air conditioner, ripped off the face plate and stuck a dryer tube inside and covered up any leak points, then stuck the other end directly onto the HSF on the cpu) overclocked the 1.4 to 2ghz and ran stabely for about 6 hours and then it crashed, prolly the air compresser in the air conditioner turning off too much. But even at 2ghz, I didn't notice anything amazing. And as much as I wish I could scream through Doom3, I still think it's gonna take a beast of a system to pull off amazing FPS on this damn game. I did hear through the grapevine though, that the FX 5900 Ultra card from Nvidia pulled a sweet 100fps in Doom3, now that's nice.
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5eraph, I know. I'm told by my AMD-freak friends that you can OC a T-BIRD (1.2) very easily. The T-breds (2000 and up) don't OC very well. Plus, they get real hot real fast until you hit the 2600's or so. AMD had alot of heat issues with certain Athlons. Plus, Athlons in general run hotter than P4s. More operations/cycles per second than comparable pfs, gets you better perforamance and more heat. They seemed to have solved it with the newer chips, though.
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Well there were also different revisions of the Tbird chips, AXIA and AYHJA , the AXIA chips overclock a lot higher and easier, but run VERY hot, the AYHJA chips barely overclock , but run SUPER cool. I run at 1.4 ghz @ 1.53 on a daily basis and I idle at just around 100F (or 40c) and full load about 115F. But the wonders of an air conditioner can amaze you :-D
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The Radeon 9800 256 mb shoud do the trick, too. I think it's the first 256mb card?? Anyway, congrats on your cooling efforts there :-) Gotta watch for condensation, though. Some people jst focus on overclocking their vidcard until artifacting appears and messes up your textures. If DOOM3 has ALOT of polygons, then you'll need a SERIOUS rig to run that thing all maxed out. If Morrowind is any indicator, DOOM3 will have unprecedented polyogn counts. I jsut hope that they've devised a good engine to draw all that shit.
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DOOM3 performance, I should think, will depend on polygon counts. I hope the DOOM3 game engine willb e built to handle that efficiently.
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So were any of you guys (and ladies) at e3 this last week? If so you probably saw me hanging out by the Soul Caliber 2 Finals. Had to go watch Gabe take second. Oh yeah, point of this message...any one see the new Final Fantasy : Crystal Chronicles? It has to be the sweetest game ever made...
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No, I wasn't at E3. I'm looking forward to Doom3, though. But for now, I'll keep busy with Pirates of the Caribbean (release date set firm for June 12) by Bethesda Softworks (makers of Morrowind.) I'll also pick up a copy of Vice City.
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Ok, basically Petecee, you are gonna get about 30-40 fps with any kind of medium to higher graphic setting. Even the Geforce FX at the highest resolutions on max graphics benchmarked at 80 fps in doom3....
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Your processor speed is right up there, a few months out of date, but it's still impressive. RAM is actually enough. It would have been MORE than enough about 6 months ago. It's probably enough to run DOOM3 decently, but I would recommend a full Gig, just so you are ready for the future. Your vidcard is sweet. . . . . soundcard is right up there, and monitor is great as well.
So, maybe get a bit more RAM. Another 256 maybe . . . . if you can - I'm not sure how you;re mobo is configured.
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Docks go off, as do system meters, dropshadow programs and transparencies. Just makeas things trhat much more stable and faster. Of ocurse, StyleXP stays put as it is.
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I THINK, if you quite the explorer and run things thru the task manager (I think it's possbble), then you'll see noticeable gains in speed . . . am I right?
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bluecube, everything looks okay in your system, cept the video card might be a little lower. Ti4800 = Ti4400 at 8x agp, but that should still be able to handle Doom3 at medium-high detail, especially with the processor and the ram. And as for upgrading ram, you can NEVER have "too" much :)
/shivers thinking of doom3
damn i cant wait.
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DOOM3 just might be better than dropping off the Cosby's . . . . well, maybe not, but imagine playing DOOM3 WHILE dropping off the Cosby's . . . huh? eh?? ah . . . . :-)
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