Yes the ability to hog up valuable system memory :P
: Nothing's better than takin a dump and checkin out some uber hardware...well...hacking into microsoft while dropping off the Cosby's might be better :
Wow gear took that pretty offensively. You can add rollup action with a simple little 30K program and also minimize to systray, again, a program found on virtualplastic. Anyhow, anything that takes up more memory than needed isnt worth my time, installing a program to have skinned scrollbars or context menu buttons isnt worth "MY" time (notice I put MY in quotes, meaning, I'm not speaking for everyone else, just myself)
1.8 isnt valuable to me at all, with 2 gigs of ram who needs 1.8 megs? Just the fact that it's there annoys me, especially when it doesnt have to be.
As max said, who cares? and dextro, good luck on the msstyles port :P
: Nothing's better than takin a dump and checkin out some uber hardware...well...hacking into microsoft while dropping off the Cosby's might be better :
So instead of running one program to do all that stuff you would rather run 2, or 3 (or however many). The truth is, I never intended Gauge to be a visual style, because the capabilities simply aren't there.
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Running tiny ass little programs is better than running one giant ball of crap, sure windowblinds is more capable, it has thousands of people behind it, working on it, adding features, but with features comes bloat, that's just the way it works.
Sure, I can't get little fish swimming in my title bar like you can with one of the default WB themes (which, by the way, is completely moronic). I've used WB many times in the past and even WB4 on a very upto date system, and i just don't feel it. I rather use a built in engine to give me the asthetic appeal that I require. WB is nice for people without XP that want some nice effects, I don't deny it's appeal and functionality at all, I'm just saying that given the pros and cons of StyleXP/UXTheme/XP's built in theme support vs. WindowBlinds, StyleXP (visual style) comes out on top. A. because you can do it for FREE with UXtheme, B. it uses pretty much absolutely no memory resources,and lastly, while i havnt made a theme for either one myself, I'd imagine making themes for StyleXP would be worlds easier (again this is just a guess, so I don't stand behind it).
Gear, your suite rocks, don't get me wrong at all, and im not saying that you made a bad choice by using WB, because it's a personal opinion , YOUR the skinner, so you use whatever the hell you want to, and I won't/can't stand in your way, hell i've submitted one screenshot in my entire membership here, so I'm not claiming to be a theme guru. But when the facts come down to it, StyleXP is just a more sensible way to go, especially if your not making a theme with animated toolbars, bubbly scrollbars, animated menus, etc. etc.
But then again, this is why we have wonderful people like Dextro who will port it for us :)
: Nothing's better than takin a dump and checkin out some uber hardware...well...hacking into microsoft while dropping off the Cosby's might be better :
Guess what? The Gauge skin I made for WB, can't even be replicated for StyleXP. It's simply impossible to make a skin that looks like that, it refuses to run a font/titlebar that small. So your entire point is moot.
Windowblinds = freedom. StyleXP = limitations.
As the port can't possibly replicate my design, it won't be released.
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I'm running Hacked vs and I can get it running with a taskbar that size from the Appearance menu so it must be possible somehow, maybe to hack it in after it's made?
That wasnt my point, since u cant seem to understand english lemme put it this way:
Windowblinds = Hoggy 3-rd party program for purdy pictures and bubbly scrollbar StyleXP = native skinning engine for people who KNOW style
got it?
: Nothing's better than takin a dump and checkin out some uber hardware...well...hacking into microsoft while dropping off the Cosby's might be better :
gear.. the title bar and font size can actually get that small, it's part of the same sizing mechanism that allows for thin taskbars and compact startmenus.
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blah, who cares .. . besides styleXP or the XP visual styles are built on the same engine that windowblinds uses .. . but either way regardless what you use, you're still usin' some app to skin your explorer .. .
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holy shit . . . . I can't believe there's an argument over this.
LOL, maybe it's the same as the fake argument Girlietec and I cooked up for shits and giggles . . . . aww, Gear and Ridgeburner are just putting on a show . . . . :-)
I'm going to officially give up on this debate, as I don't wish it to turn into a "Matrix Reloaded" thread like me and mojo had :p Although it was fun, in an insulting each other to all hell kind of way, eh, not in the mood for it.
Like nsomnia said, which is in a weird way kind of true, their both practically the same, one's just native and one's not. Oh well, all's well that ends well.
: Nothing's better than takin a dump and checkin out some uber hardware...well...hacking into microsoft while dropping off the Cosby's might be better :
Think what you want, but as someone who hasn't skinned either app, your opinion won't be taken seriously, because you simply don't know what you're talking about.
I'm just tired of people bashing WB, when I kept seeing Dex having to use all sorts of tricks to make it look like mine (transparent glyphs with the buttons on the actual titlebar), because StyleXP couldn't do it naturally. Ask anyone who's skinned both, WindowBlinds just has more freedom.
Dex managed to get it like the buttons subskin (another thing StyleXP doesn't have, compound skins) I made. Seriously though, you seem to have some prepackaged hate for WB, calling it hoggy, when 1.8mb is hardly such, and what are you talking about bubbly scrollbars? StyleXP skins scrollbars too, you know. How does someone who themes StyleXP 'know style' more than someone who skins WB? Now you just come off like a dumbass.
But I'm finished with this. People who've never skinned shit telling me what I should have skinned, telling me it's better as if they would know.. it's bullshit. Sorry to go off on you but you're not the first person I've had to defend my skins to. *looks at Max*
"I shake my pickle at you, sir!" ...gear :: custo admin...
lol@prodigy, my thoughts exactly, what a joke. I might not have skinned either app, but i use themes on a daily basis multiple times, i've cycled my entire theme setup onward of 7 or 8 times in a single day, just for fun, that entitles me to a valid opinion. End of story. I'm through arguin with this kid anymore.
: Nothing's better than takin a dump and checkin out some uber hardware...well...hacking into microsoft while dropping off the Cosby's might be better :
hey c'mon what you mean by that gear? I got nothing but love for your skins man.. all your stuff is on point. I never said anything bad bout them only the app that is used to put them on the desktop WB
Let gear & dextro work out the details of whether or not there will be a Visual Style port of gauge. If dextro can't do it and you think you can, email gear and give it a shot. The truth is the skin is his and if it can't be effectively ported to his standards, it won't be released.
Who CARES whether or not WB or StyleXP is better....good lord! What a useless debate! The issue is whether or not gear's skin can be ported in a way that gear finds acceptable. If it can, it will be released. If it can't, it won't. *shrug*
StyleXP is shit, but the unlocked MsStyle feature (built into xp) via uxtheme.dll simply is the best.
For one, it's all built into windows xp so its all fresh, stable and smooth.
Second, it changes everything (for example, my pictures has the background in the window, same with control pannel and windows folder) not just taskbars, buttons, ect...
Third, it's free. I'm guessing to unlock the "Microsoft Style" feature in xp they wanted to do that with Microsoft Plus! but I guess they saw that people already figured it out (uxtheme.dll)
And overall, it's natural. It's like comparing the stability of classic explorer to another shell. It was coded by the developers of the operating system, so it's a garanuatee that it works smoothly and best at its maximum potentional because they have code for the whole operating system which makes it easy for them to incorporate features that will work with others at the same time avoiding hogging memory, crashing and other neusiences. (For example, Internet Explorer is smoother and nicer than any other browser because it's a part of the operating system, it's all together, ironed together as one peice)
When you buy a nice car, and the tires and all the additional features are branded as one. It's a nice package that completes it.
That's how I feel about the incorporated MsStyle/Visual Style feature rather than getting another program doing it for me. I don't need another "Windows Explorer" or another "Command Prompt" or another "Outlook Express" and even another "Notepad"
hahahahhahaha.......... " It was coded by the developers of the operating system, so it's a garanuatee that it works smoothly and best at its maximum potentional" now, im not a m$ basher, you dont see me switching to mac or anything else anytime soon. but thats just funny, everything running smoothly?in windows nothing is garanteed to run right. hahahaha.
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