Im suppose to be getting some money soon, and Im looking to spend around $500 or so on a new PC. I would be using this for graphics, burning cds, dvd's and listening to music... mostly. I dont know much at all about building one and dont know much about whats good and what isnt. How bout some help...?
Links to would be great.
FrostedFlames | Submission Admin
08:28 pm, Friday, September 26, 2003 (6 years ago)
lol, check out "Advice on Pc" topic. Alreadt made that question and I plan on using the new pc mostly for the stuff you do, plus I have the same budget so all suggestions there are under 500$
Amd AThlon Xp 1700+ Asus A7n8x Delux Mobo Audigy2 sound card 52x cd burner 80gig HD geforce4 Ti4200 Vid Card And no matter what GET 512 CRUCIAL MICRON RAM
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darksheer so the plan is to drink until I don't have teh coordination to open another bottle
$89.00 - Found a good deal (Amd Athlon Xp Barton 2500+) $124.99 $73.00 $40.99 $100.00 Found good deal (120gig) $135.00 Found a good deal (Radeon 9500, 128mb) $85.00
Sum Total = 647.98
That PC is well worth that money, i suggest u buy wha ti listed and build your pc, u will not regret it. just get a extra 150$
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darksheer so the plan is to drink until I don't have teh coordination to open another bottle
i mean, u can always downgrade some of that to. like less HD space or a little less of a sound card. i really suggest u do buy that processor and that ram. their reall good deals.
thats all from newegg.com so go there and shop.
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darksheer so the plan is to drink until I don't have teh coordination to open another bottle
Are you trying to build a complete system for 500$, including monitor, case and required peripherals?
I spend hours of research on every piece of hardware I get. I would first determine what CPU speed and how much HDD space you need. Then find a good chipset you like. If your going to deal with graphics, it is a good idea to get the best RAM you can afford, staying within specs of your mother board. As for a graphics card, if your not going to play games, you don't have to go top of the line. You could even get an onboard GPU with such chipsets as the NForce series.
Anyway I would suggest going to google and typing such things as "*Specific Hardware* Roundup, Comparison, Top Picks". Check out www.tomshardware.com for some good reviews and links. And check out www.pricewatch.com for some good price comparisons. Goodluck.
Do not buy a brand name pc for the love of god! buy the parts and biuld your own! only way to go and you get what you want! I have a damn good system and spent like 700 bucks on it. i just bought me a new MSI k7n2 delta motherboard....cool stuff...nforce 2 chipset and dual channel memmory pass. but anyways, build it yourself!
for very nice sound card. get the one i listed, and same goes with the video card.
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Boogieman man, when i have kids I'm going to look at what they're drawing Boogieman and go "MAN, THATS LEET KIDO!" Boogieman "Upload that shit to the fridge!"
If you're gonna get an Asus A7N8X, don't get the deluxe model if you plan on getting a soundcard. The standard model has everything you'd need if you plan on getting a separate soundcard.
its 4x AGP your getting a 8x AGP video card it will only run at 4x and not 8x you will be getting only half the performance you might as well by a cheaper video card.
and sorry i cant remember the tech specs of how many gb/s 4x and 8x handles.
Once again, I'm dismayed that even though you can find out most ANYTHING via the internet in about 5 minutes of research, people simply rely on: A. Commercials and, B. their own delusions to make up their mind about something, and then regurgitate it as fact elsewhere. When i was last buying a video card, I wanted to know exactly what was up with AGP 8x, as I rememeber seeing no quantifiable difference between 2x and 4x, running benchmarks on swapped cards, etc.
"There is no real world difference in performance between 4x and 8x. And you can run an 8x card in a 4x mobo, it will just run at 4x. It's all just a marketing ploy."
"Todays cards are loaded with 64, 128 and even 256meg of ram. Games are (for the most part) still designed to run with 32meg or less. Thus, there is NO NEED for AGP transfers to occur, and the AGP rate is meaningless. The only place it will make a difference, as RR pointed out, is in massive texture renderings, typically only seen in high-end design apps."
"AGP 8x is recommended if you have a serious need to transfer multiple GBs worth of texture data from the GPU to system memory. Think professional 3D design applications, not games."
"Not even withstanding texture transfers, another flawed arguement I often hear is that a higher bandwidth AGP bus can more efficiently transfer geometry to the GPU from the processor. Again, this means little for games."
I have yet to see ANYONE here use textures in a wall here at custo that would come close to taxing current vid card tech. And if you're going to be clowning around with massive texures, you're going to ignore gaming cards anyway and probably pick up something like this, to start out with anyway:
Notice it only has 32 megs of graphic memory, uh oh, must be sooooo slow, gasp, it's only 4x AGP! etc. etc. IT CONTAINS NO HIP COOL GEEKY MEANINGLESS BUZZWORDS!
I'd rather model and render with these than the nicest ATI/Nvidia card money can buy.
Col was right in every aspect of his post, especially the AGP ratings, their useless in today's and probably tomorrow's world. If your lookin for performance for the price, do NOT get an SIS chipset, their far from performance compared to say, the Asus A7N8X or MSI K7N, or even a KT333/KT400 chipset based motherboard. Everything else looks fine except for your motherboard and video card, that's the Pinto of Video Cards :p Go for a GF3 or a GF4 TI based card, they'll both blow away the MX series, which has been stripped of every feature that MADE the GF 4 series what it is.
:I'd walk a million miles for your love, I'd walk a million more for that little thing you do with your tongue :
AGAIN, we're talking about a BUDGET system here. I don't think FF is out to run DOOM 3 at 230 FPS . . . . . .
These threads have turned into: "what I want FF to have" and not into "what FF needs or can have according to his $$$."
Again, FF, stick with your own research skills - they are probably considerable!
You might try this: Do your research over the net. Take a week or so. Don't opt fot the BEST, just the best for your budget. It might very well be that you can still afford high-end goodies, so be it. Then, when you have an idea of what you want, go to your local computer store (wher they BUILD computers.) Have a look areound, TALK to the sales reps and maybe their tech people. Note their demeanor, ask them what they can recommend for your $$$. See if they want to sell you top-end stuff, thereby pushing up your budget limit. Maybe they are more customer-oriented and they try to get you the best stuf for your budget.
Then: LEAVE. Go to another store. Do the same thing. Then, if you have time, visit a few more.
When finished: Go home. Sleep on it. maybe use the weekend to gather your thoughts and then choose the people who you think will take care of your needs to your satisfaction.
What happened to me, in case you care, lol: I called a store where they BUILD comps. This was in May 2002. I talked to a youg guy, 18 or 19. I said: "I used to love macs. Build me mac-killer. You've got $1800 CDN to play with. Call me back in 20 minutes and let me know what you can do for me. "Sure, dude, no problem."
He called me back in 15. The result:
-AMD Athlon XP2000+ -512 mb of RAM -60 GIG HD (Maxtor) -ATI Radeon 8500 128mb -SoundBlaster Audigy X-Gamer -ATX case with 400watt power supply -CD Burner (32x10x40x) -3.5 floppy drive -slimline keyboard -rool-mouse -WinXP Home -MS Office 2000 for FREE
VerdicL He stuck to the budget, didn't bullshit me, and put in stuff I would like for the money I had. THAT SIMPLE.
