alright, well i would like to contribute by buying a t-shirt (i need some more new clothes anyway :P) is Question number one is: paypal the only way to purchase a shirt?? i am uncomfortable using paypal/credit due to the fact that i know what can go on. one of my best friends can do all types of things by stealing credit card numbers and taking over paypal accounts that are not used often. is there a way to mail cash/check??? i'm prolly not seeing something somewhere, but just to make it easy can i get all this shit cleared up here?? i mean, i ammmm paying money :P ----------- http://www.elixir.tk
10:29 pm, Tuesday, September 30, 2003 (6 years ago)
mojo, haha. u always know what to say in response to these types of things.
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Boogieman man, when i have kids I'm going to look at what they're drawing Boogieman and go "MAN, THATS LEET KIDO!" Boogieman "Upload that shit to the fridge!"
if he is your "best friend" and you know he does that, then if something happens to your money or shit you go after him. Other than that i don't see what a friend he can be if he tries to do it. Or you can ask your best friend to hack someone elses account take some money as you say he can and use that money to buy yourself a t-shirt so if the money does go missing, you've lost nothing ;) yes i am joking.
i don't know much about pay pal because i've never used it so.. can't take any advice from me :)
basically, he looks for accounts that arent used in a long time,and/or that have a nice sum of money in them....this means at least 5g....i have neither problem, but im sketchy about throwing credit card numbers into cyberspace, whether its paypal or not. there's no such thing as secure internet...now i would not be a a great loss, so im not really thinking on NOT doing it, and even if something did happen...i could get my friend to conjure somethin up for me :D . but since the question has been raised...is there anyway to pay thru the post?
andyes, i do have a very shady personal life... i keep many things to myself, but it doesn't interfere with relationships and my social life... its just how i am
Heh...try sending a payment through paypal or a wad of cash through the mail and see which payment actually arrives.
I have been using paypal for 2 years without any incident, as have many other people. The transmission of your payment information is encrypted, whether you make the payment to paypal or directly to us, it's an encrypted transaction.
Don't use an easily guessable paypal password, and I'm quite safe in telling you that your payment for a t-shirt will arrive safely. Look at it this way, maybe your friend was able to get some kind of info from 5 users of paypal. If it was really a problem, how would literally thousands of transactions occur via paypal every day. Don't forget, almost every ebay transaction happens via paypal.
If you're really that uncomfortable, you can email me and we can try to work something out...but honestly, the best way to go is using our secure, encrypted, online transactions via paypal.
...and of course, if you don't want to send cash, write down your credit card number on a piece of paper and the expiration date, put it in an envelope, and send that through the mail.
There is no such thing as "complete security." An encrypted transaction online these days is one of the safest means of purchasing available.
All I'm saying is that much of the fear that is lingering around about internet theft is unfounded. The other portion of it is either the same risk you take every time you make a purchase...anywhere.
alright you konw what...i appreciated the help and suggestiosn, but the sarcasm is getting to me, and im a pretty humorous guy. but i understand paypal's security, and im not a fucking idiot to send a wad of cash thru the mail, i wasnt born yesterday, im only 4 years younger than you darksheer, but im intelligent. and ill have you know, i bought a shirt last night, so lay off :D. when youve seen the criminal side of things you'll think twice before doing things. i know people use paypal all the time, i know it's safe. ive used paypal before. but back to my original question, i was JUST WONDERING if there were any other alternate payment methods. im fairly cautious with credit and whatnot, my uncle had his identity stolen a few years ago (he got it back now, haha). it's just something you have to have lived to understand i guess. and i feel like im leaving something outta this post, so ill prolly be back. and that fanta thing, i didnt like at first bc i was in a bad mood, but its pretty hilarious :D . have you guys seen "the superbowl is gay" or any flash movies by jim ether?
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I completely agree that people need to be cautious with their spending as identity theft can certainly be a scary prospect. I've also seen the criminal side of things.
However, if we become too paranoid and aren't willing to make a purchase from a generally trusted source, we're screwed. There are some simple steps to follow to help prevent theft from happening to you, but stifling your purchases through generally trusted sources (like paypal) is just taking it too far. Not giving your credit card number to a company that solicits you via email or phone, that's smart! The vast majority of identity theft / cc fraud occurs through those types of channels, not purchases made from respectable vendors.
I can say this: I work in encryption and information security. SSL transactions, IPSec, and the like use either AES-128 or 3DES, neither of which has been cracked yet. It is expected that current computing power would require something like 10^18 billion years to crack those algorithms.
In other words, nobody's intercepting your transmissions and purchases through https sockets. Like ds said, your real risk comes from phone and e-mail purchases. I don't recall ever having done either. I've been buying things online for about 10 or 11 years now and I have yet to have a problem.
i know, and i'll nicely repeat, i was JUST WONDERING if there were other payment methods. i believe paypal is secure, or i wouldn't use it. by the way, if i had a t-shirt suggestion/design where would i submit it (im prolly overlooking that somewhere to, but i dont feel like finding out, im that lazy)
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At the moment, we are not accepting t-shirt designs. However, we are pondering the idea of holding a design contest in the future. So hold on to those ideas, and if we decide to hold the competition, you can certainly enter.
im too lazy to read more then three posts down. but what i did read, your a moron to reveal all that information. if he gets cuaght you could be brought down becuase you knew of his acts.
i know what to say and what not to say, and from what i've said you cant prove shit... -------------------------------- - Jay aka Rubix aka Elixir - http://www.elixir.tk
Just hacked into all the missle silos in America and launched a nuclear strike at Arkansas.
Later I will transfer all the money in the world to my Swiss bank account.
And that's just the beginning. Hahaha, you don't know the half of me, friend.
If you don't hear about this on the news it's because I have diirectly hacked into all the brains of all the people in the world and all beings are living in a reality I construct. Puppets, one and all.
I could make you have a relationship with a car muffler right now if I wanted, and you'd think you were really eating a hotdog, in say, France.
It appears my "Make Sonic type a post that states he comes here to be treated like a retard" script is working perfectly.
In reality he has just boarded a class B fission powered "Planet Jumper" star frigate that will soon be heading towards the frontlines in the Spelcher system. There he will serve as an entertainment drone for the enhanced mercanaries fighting against B'nrtj faction. Because of my super duper leet hacking skills, he will continue to believe he exists here on earth, living out his life as shady cyber ninja, even though in reality he is being prodded by massive bionic genitalia.
i mean, ive always liked you, ever since the comment you made to som shit talker about him being the shepard of the steel buffalo on the asphault plain, but alli wanted was a simple question answered. darksheer answered it, and that's all i wanted. -------------------------------- - Jay aka Rubix aka Elixir - http://www.elixir.tk
rofl! hahaha ::applause and then hands c72 a nobel prize::
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Boogieman man, when i have kids I'm going to look at what they're drawing Boogieman and go "MAN, THATS LEET KIDO!" Boogieman "Upload that shit to the fridge!"
