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Aphaits says:

Do 64-bit CPU's require 2 processors or just 1 big one?

Have intel released a 64-bit processor yet? all I see on the magazines are all AMD thats 64-bits.

Just curious :)

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09:41 pm, Thursday, May 06, 2004 (5 years ago)
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liquidred says:

...the a64 is just one processor.

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09:41 pm (5 years ago)
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liquidred says:

its quiet small too btw.

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09:41 pm (5 years ago)
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colossus72 says:

but heavy

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11:03 pm (5 years ago)
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Aphaits says:

ah, I always thought 64bit cpu's use dual processors

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12:33 am (5 years ago)
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patArick says:

google it.....there is more info there than any of us can explain on this forum

12:34 am (5 years ago)
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caesar1996 says:

you need Windows XP 64bit Edition to really take advantage of what the 64bit processor offers.

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12:35 am (5 years ago)
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Dogbert says:

And thats just the OS. There is hardly any 64-bit applications that I know of. Most of your 32-bit apps will run, but you will still have those bottlenecks (such as in gaming) because the software doesn't know how to work with the processor.

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07:26 am (5 years ago)
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darksheer says:

Intel does have a 64-bit chip called the "Itanium" but from what I understand, it's not compatible with x86 chipsets (meaning basically any other Intel or AMD processor).

64-bit processors are just that, single processors. The reason you see dual-processor configurations (and even more) most of the time when looking at 64-bit systems is that for the moment, 64-bit systems are used primarily in high-end computing (3D rendering, complex mathematical modeling, etc.) which requires greater processor power; hence, multiple processors.

AMD's 64-bit offering IS compatible with x86 chipsets, and from what I understand, Intel plans to scrap the Itanium to mimic AMD's 64-bit architecture.

It's probably going to be a few years before 64-bit computing becomes the norm...but give it time.

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07:34 am (5 years ago)
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LTD says:

AMD's 64-bit offerings run 32-bit applications as well as a 32-bit processor. No bottlenecks with AMD architecture.
The bottleneck problem lies with Intel, currently.

It's a single processor, however. Yes, there are dual configurations as darksheer stated. That's sweet, though, dual 64-bit cpus. Wow.



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11:05 am (5 years ago)
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colossus72 says:

Like LTD said; there's no bottlenecks.

get off the drugs.

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01:14 pm (5 years ago)
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colossus72 says:

Athlon64 is already known as a kickass gaming solution.

01:23 pm (5 years ago)
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PepeM4Y says:

Im thinking on scrapping me notebook and building me first computer. What should i do: Buy a 64 Bit, buy 2 32 bits, or wait. Money's not too much of a issue.

02:12 pm (5 years ago)
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colossus72 says:

2 32 bits? Huh?

Like a dual Xeon?

If money's no object, buy dual Opteron 248s with a couple of gigs of XMS3200, throw in the latest hot ass vid card and write a check out for four grand.,

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02:42 pm (5 years ago)
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darksheer says:

PepeM4Y: 2 32-bit processors does NOT equal one 64-bit processor.

I could go into a really long, drawn-out explanation of what exactly the difference between 32-bit and 64-bit processing is...but I don't want to. There are plenty of resources online.

Basically though, it's how many bits are used for a standard INT definition...or it laymans terms, how big an integer a processor can understand.

For more in depth, look around google.

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02:55 pm (5 years ago)
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enfusion says:

hmm.. so that means that 64bit processors only offer more accuracy, not necessarily more speed?

03:21 pm (5 years ago)
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colossus72 says:

One of many advantages, but a biggie: 32 bit CPUs have 8 registers that hold 32 bits each. This means they can't work with more than 4 gigs of RAM. A 32-bit processor can only work with 232 addresses, which multiplies out to 4 gigabytes of RAM. Upgrading to 64-bit registers lets the chip access 264 bytes, which I forget the # and i'm to lazy to do it for this thread, comes out to something in the BILLIONS of gigs of RAM.

That's a lot of RAM.

03:30 pm (5 years ago)
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colossus72 says:

Although emthusiasts will have noted the current gen of Athlon 64 mboards are having problems supporting large amounts of RAM. :)

03:31 pm (5 years ago)
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darksheer says:

64-bit processing is about processing power...not processing speed.

and for desktop use at the moment: it's all POTENTIAL.

There's not really much reason right now to waste your money on 64-bit....maybe next upgrade or purchase...but not right now.

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04:56 pm (5 years ago)
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LTD says:

I should think that the new ATI cards deserve a bit more attention at the moment . . . ?

06:39 pm (5 years ago)
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colossus72 says:

64 bit is at the same price point as 32 bit right now, P4 vs AMD.

And the 3400 blows doors.

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08:13 am (5 years ago)
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colossus72 says:

and power = speed

much in the same way volume = tone


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08:14 am (5 years ago)
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LTD says:

Col, I take it that you mean it's good that it "blows doors."

I'd find it rather difficult to blow a door. I have an interesting friend how might enjoy it, though.

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