What do you guys think about the idea of a machine that produces energy without using it? My friend and I have designed a device that might do just that.
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10:56 pm, Thursday, February 17, 2005 (4 years ago)
well, perpetual is impossible, "propetual" probably just involves a propeller ;) *&60;/smartass>
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On the other hand, I have quite a few ideas of a machine that would produce NO energy at all and consume A LOT, (like the tax system in my country, or the politician promisses and so on), anyone interested?
Well, The reason this device can bend the rules of thermo dynamics, it because it uses a principle I designed called "Magnetobearings" which is basically a way to use strang circular magnets together to create a contact free bearing. That means no friction. Then, opposite but equal magnetic and electro-magnetic energies will be used in a top-secret arrangment, producing a motion which would increase in speed exponetially. We've achieved the goal in computer simulations, and are currently seeking a grant to fund our research. I wish there was an edit feature, as of course, there is no such thing as propetual motion. I am speaking of perpetual motion.
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"The existence of a perpetual motion machine is generally accepted as being impossible according to our current understanding of the laws of physics." Laws are made to be broken... "In the future, you will know me only as, 'Master'."
chances are, if you're working with magnets, the idea is already patented and/or has already been thought of several million college students throughout time.
"Many of these designs utilize magnets as some kind of free energy source, and assume frictionless surfaces. However, while several of these designs are not perpetual motion machines, they oftentimes can run on their own for a long time, as long as they're not asked to do any real work to the external environment."
not to say you shouldn't keep trying, though. one of the better traits of humanity is a willingness to take on apparently insurmountable odds. so keep going.
While I'm fairly sure the vast majority of the people here know absolutely nothing about engineering, I have to agree with the crowd. It might be possible in the distant future. You know, like when pigs fly. :)
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well magnets "lose their pull" by dropping them, I believe it is because you are scattering the electrons, and for a magnet to be strong those electrons must be in perfect alignment.
I also have a theoretical design that could possible be the start of anti-gravity. There is nothing concrete about it, just an idea, But I think that it's possible to create a device that generates a gravitational field non-inertially. In other words, without spinning anything. It also uses electro-magnetic theory. Perhaps I should begin development of a proto-type. Something that would allow me to fly...
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That's alrady been done, I saw it on a PBS special. Using ridiculously strong electro-magnets and some water, engineers and physicists created an 'anti-gravity chamber' where frogs were floating around completely free of all gravitational forces.
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Yes, but that was a big expensive energy sucking machine that they had to shut the rest of the complex down just to run. This will be cost effective and capable of propultion. Also the frogs died because all the iron in there bodies were sucked to the magnets.
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I'm not even going to go into the applications for these plasma generating lamps. They use what is basically a tesla coil. But they are very powerful. I once fashioned a glove weapon out of one. Itrequired an Ac/Inverter and a 14.4 volt battery to work, but it would seriously hurt the hell out of anyone I touched with it. If I were to pierce the needles at the end of each finger into a persons skin, they could probably have a heart attack from the rediculously high voltage. I tried to use it instead of a coil in my truck, but when I grabbed the key to turn it, I got zapped big time. Since then my device has blown it's capacitors due to an overload while trying to work on the "Distortion Modulator" a device I cannot even discuss the nature of.
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Wait a minute-- capable of propulsion? You mean you're going to move the anti-gravitational field itself? That's impossible. First, if the field is anti-gravitational, what's to prevent the 'propulsion system' (which I'm assuming will be in the field) whatever it may be from destroying what/whoever is inside? Secondly, how are you going to contain the anti-gravitational field? Thirdly, how are you going to make this cost effective??
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if its in a really cold enviroment, where there isn't much energy to start with it could appear to be doing a lot than it would at regular temperatures. lots of neat things happen when its really really cold.
kinda silly to post you idea's here, if they were truely lagitament you would be writing scientific grants and be published in physics and science journals.
First, to use this "glove weapon" you talked about, you would have to create an immense voltage difference across a person's body in places such that for current to travel between the two potential differences, it would travel through the heart. Based on the physical limitations of a human hand, this is impossible. Now, if you had two gloves, with one at extremely high voltage and the other extremely low (or a common ground), you could do this. Well, in theory you could, but the problem is you'd be dead yourself from the massive current flowing through your heart.
Also, there is no such thing as perpetual motion. As many people have pointed out, it violates the Second Law of Thermodynamics. You can't get more energy out of a system than is put in (or already present). In a perfectly ideal situation, you'd have a unity device, which produces the exact amount of energy it consumes. You sound like Joseph Newman (one of the most famous "free energy" fools).
People have been searching for this for at least 800 recorded years, and probably as long as intelligent life has existed. People also believe there are physics-defying "flying triangles," anti-gravity machines, and probably plenty more. The infamous "floating frog" was no more an example of antigravity than a rocket.
some of you sound like the people who argued vehemently with columbus that world was flat.
history is full of people who told others that something cant be done because they were not familiar with the means of making it happen at that point in time. Thats the great thing about being human is that what we dream can eventually become reality with more experience and understanding of the things around us.
Think about us being able to land on the moon the next time you are ready to argue to the death about a "fool" and his/her idea.
Max, you have a point in a sense. But, we had no evidence that the world was flat. Sure, looking back, it seems horribly stupid and naive that anybody ever thought that.
However, some things are markedly different. Our models of atoms, for example, were limited by what we could and could not see. As our microscope technology advanced, we were able to develop more complete images of what the atom looks like. Similarly, with things like evolution and intelligent design, we don't know. We have two competing theories, and time will certainly tell us more.
Other things are about as immutable as they can get. One is the law of gravity - this is a defined physical property, one that is not only measurable but observable. Newton's Laws and the Thermodynamics Laws are not mere theories. They are as close to basic truths as we can get - much as, in our empirical math system, 2 and 2 makes 4.
I mean, free energy would be cool, but it's not going to happen. Never in the history of the known universe has such a thing happened.
But if it happens, that would be pretty cool. Kinda like money growing on a tree.
Glad to see there are some people who can think outside the box... The universe is expanding exponetially. Can we ever reach the end??? No one can really answer that. I can say that I have observed some very amazing things in my exprimentation.
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Well the book isnt selling so well and money is pretty tight in the future. Gotta make ends meet and what not. Anyways, I can tell you first hand that this kid is lying. In the future everything is powered by Gerbils. Infact, your people should discover in a few years that the closest thing to perpetual motion is infact, gerbil power.
I read somewhere that the earth was a supercomputer commissioned by mice to find the ultimate question of 'life, the universe and everything' to which the answer is '42'.
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