bastards and i just started use'n trillan 2... argh! why must aol some how allways reck everything!!!!!

*** You were kicked from #rush68 by rush68 (rush68)

"This bully act mustn't be tolerated..."?!?

AOL does pay to keep the service running. I suggest you read this news post on deskmod:

http://www.deskmod.com/?show=news&nid=31
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David Serrano :: ModWorks Group LLC :: Administration
sooprcow@deskmod.com :: http://sooprcow.deskmod.com

It is arogent people like you that don't understand free services like AOL's IM service still cost money to run. AOL has every right to do what it is doing.

David Serrano :: ModWorks Group LLC :: Administration
sooprcow@deskmod.com :: http://sooprcow.deskmod.com

arrogant* :)

AOL needs to make money, too, and they're not nearly as bad as Microsoft. It's their money, it's their servers. Trillian is hacking into their servers, although it's a pretty benign hack in the sense other than it's sapping revenue from AOL. Not that I like AOL or Microsoft. I just spent about an hour getting disconnected from AOL over 5 times at my friends house trying to download some drivers for him. :).

Fuck 'em, and their law!
I made a god out of blood / Not superiority

instant messaging should be a free service imo and without crappy annoying banner adds and junk like that which AOL pushes on its users. And besides, aol makes enough revenue from it's internet service + (even tho' i have no statistics) how many people actually click on the adds? hah, not once in over 7 years of using the internet have i clicked on an add yet :).

I wish people would more or less understand that it cost money to have a program such as AIM or MSN Messenger. Deal with the AD's, crack it yourself, or make a better one w/o ads. See how long that last one last...

go trill!

trillian rocks, AOL sucks but they have to be so damn protective, if they want people to use thier products either make it without ads or leave other programs like trillian alone.

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aol was suppose to open up the AIM protocol for the AOL, warner merger to go through, but oh wells who's gonna enforce it ? unless enough ppls complain or bring it to attention. hmmmmmmm well ok after some research and reading this page

http://gaim.sourceforge.net/aol.shtml

aol doesn't have to open it. :(
anyways i hate AIM so go trillian !!!!!!

Well for all of you who reckon that im should be free, go out purcase a few boxes, pay for the connections, they'd have to be at least T3, and then pay for the software developers to build an IM, then the security software to stop all the real hack attempts, and all the virus checkers, the domain name for your site, tech people to monitor a dozen IM servers. And do it all without ads, and try and make at least enough to cover your expenses. Good luck to you, I know theres no way I could trust the public to 'donate' revenue.

From the modem
through the phone line
off the router
nothing but net

we, as consumers [even if free] are entitled to the best we can find. its survival of the best program. and if aol can't keep up with itself, it shouldn't be allowed to create a non-competative environment.

furthermore, david, spo0n1983, oddfox-
give me 30 million people paying $30 a month for dialup, and i'll show you a chat client

stews

Sure you have the right to look for better software. That doesn't mean software company have the right to connect to another companies network and use it for free.

Stwes: Just because AOL has 30 million people paying $30 a month for dialup means they have lots of money to go around wasting. How would you like it if you were an investor in the company and the company was going around just wasting its money.

David Serrano :: ModWorks Group LLC :: Administration
sooprcow@deskmod.com :: http://sooprcow.deskmod.com

Stews: Also, Believe it or not you are not entitled to the best AIM client you can find. You are entitled the best AIM client that AOL, its creator, allows you. Hey guess what, that is not even a monopoly.

Another thing, your comment, "...if AOL can't keep up with itself, it shouldn't be allowed to create a non-competitive environment.", is totally arrogant. They have the right to do what ever the want with THEIR software and network. AOL is not creating a non-competitive environment if another company is connecting to AOL's network. If a company wants to compete with AOL's AIM service they should be more innovative and create their own network and or set of protocols.

David Serrano :: ModWorks Group LLC :: Administration
sooprcow@deskmod.com :: http://sooprcow.deskmod.com

Oh not this this again. Been through this already.

AOL is out for conrol. Same old news. Hope trillian wins.

this is going to boil down to ppl who think AOL has a right to stop it, and AOL is not worried about money but control.

As stated else where:
"AOL doesn't like trillan for control, not money reasons. They wants to be the only IM service. Yahoo and M$N realise that a common or even standard communcation would mutually benifit all by it being adopted by industry. As it stands, industry sees IM as uncertain, and is waiting for it to stablize. AOL has tried to do this before with it's e-mail and internet access: issolate and control it. This is not different.

Aol also claims security issues. Ha! Enough said.

This may or may not be a factor. From what I here, aol got kind screwed. M$ has or will stop distributing AOL with it's OS's to promote M$N (which is more or less an AOL clone). AOL still has embeded IE in it's broweser, yet they own netscape. Part of this may be a personal vendeta, though I must admit even I doubt it."

good points david, well taken :)
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the internet is what we make of it. its still an infant- while we still can,we should take every measure to ensure that the internet is free form and boundless.

stews

ps. im only 16. let me keep my righteousness while i can :p

All I'm gonna say (since I'm a relative newbie and easy to flame if I ramble :) ) is how would you like it if somebody was linking to files on Customize.org without permission, leeching precious bandwidth, and disregarding the handful of ads that bring in a little money?

File linking is always frowned on by community-driven sites. You don't want people stealing your files off your server and burning up the bandwidth that *you* pay for. So why should AOL have to put up with essentially the same thing?

I mean, just because they're a heartless, all powerful corporate syndicate stealing the lifeblood from the precious freedom that is the internet doesn't mean we can't all be friends, right? ...right? :)

I have one word for you all... DeadAIM.... no ads

and fuck trillian, it sucks.

- Radiation King
radking@iname.com
AIM SN: Cr4ckH43d

I have one word for you all... DeadAIM.... no ads

and fuck trillian, it sucks.

- Radiation King
radking@iname.com
AIM SN: Cr4ckH43d

DeadAIM is the shit if you use the AIM network. Sooprcow did a wonderful job of saying what I would've said.

BTW, stews, hope you have fun with the self-righteousness of the age :).

Fuck 'em, and their law!
I made a god out of blood / Not superiority

AIM+ is better then DeadAIM, AIM+ adds logging to the program :)

David Serrano :: ModWorks Group LLC :: Administration
sooprcow@deskmod.com :: http://sooprcow.deskmod.com

blah blah blah rant rant rant

Here's a new Free chat program.
www.pkichat.com